Hello self-awareness: How can an industry built on newer/fresher/bolder still be so blind to biases of diversity, equality, and inclusion within its own walls? What keeps agencies from reflecting the society they’re in business to connect with in the first place? Derek Walker of brown and browner, and Sally and David Morrow of Sally Morrow Creative hold up the mirror in this candid conversation.

These personal perspectives will stick with you — and hopefully lead to real, lasting change in us all. Check it out and share it with everyone you know, especially upper management 😉

Very special thanks to fab guest host Marie Murphy for taking over on this episode.

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